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strolly
post May 5 2007, 04:46 PM
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This is the latest admin email from reliable-email.com and she is making changes so that only the USA and Canada members will be payed cash the rest of the world has to redeem for ads and once we have redeemed for ads we wont be receiving any paid emails and we will be locked out of the PTC areas and can only earn by using the PTP facility.
She has closed previous sites and not payed all the members.
She is accusing us of not supporting the ads and then accusing us of earning off the backs of USA and Canada members in this admin email.
This site needs to be boycotted.


I have been noticing that our highest earners are from countries other than US and CA, But that it's the US and CA members that earn 95% of the site's revenue, probably more like 100%.

The reason is that as you know the search sites are paying very little.

There is also very little support for the search ads, members are just clicking for the points but not doing complete searches.

I told you moths ago that i was phazing out the search ads. I've been sending you just 2 search ads per day until i reach payout with them, and then will totally phaze them out as they are no longer profitable and it takes months to reach a $5 payout when 2 years ago, i averaged $300 a month from each search ad and between the search revenue and advertising revenue, generated more than enough to average them out to a profit.
They are no longer profitable and i don't expect any changes therefore will phaze out all search ads as soon as i reach payout at the 2 that i have left.

The following is a very hard decision for me to make and one that i must in all fairness to the members who do generate the revenue.

While some of the affiliate links accept international clicks, there really hasn't been any support for those links in months.
My earnings have been stagnant from international affiliate links for months with "0" revenue generated.
On the other hand, links that are for US, CA, members only have been generating an average of $100 a month.
Considering all the point ads in the system, that $100 doesn't go very far in the point conversion when it includes members from countries that don't generate the revenue.

Therfore i have made a VERY HARD DECISION.

As of June 1st, 2007 the only members that will receive paid mails, and have access to the paid2click area will be US and CA members. All other members will be changed to ADVERTISERS ONLY accounts and will have to log in as an advertiser.

In all fairness to those members who are upgraded, i will refund your upgrades into your accounts, to use for advertising.

The only members that will be paid in cash as of now, are US, CA members. Of course they can still redeem for ads too.

Up until May 15th, i will double the value of ads for those members from the countries other than US and CA, so that if you redeem for 1000 clicks you will get 2000 etc.

I know this decision will upset quite a few of you, but it's not fair to keep on as is, because the US and CA members are sharing the revenue they earn with all of you, and have been for months, and it's just not fair.

There are 202 members from US, 25 from CA, the rest are from other countries which have not been supporting the ads.

When your account is changed to Advertiser June 1st, you will have access to the ptp area, and redemption area but no longer have access to the paid2click or paid e-mails.

I'm very sorry if this upsets some of you, but it's the only way i can insure that those members who generate the revenue for the site, are the one's earning from it.

I'm giving you all 28 days notice, to be fair and give you enough time to double the value of the earnings in your accounts now by purchasing your ads before May 15th. After that your redemptions for advertising will be 1-1 (1000 clicks = 1000 clicks)

All members, including US, CA members who redeem earnings for ads as of now, will receive double until May 15th. (1000 = 2000 clicks) etc.

I know some of you will cancel your accounts once you redeem for ads, and i'm sorry to loose you, I'd hope that you would get good results from your ads, and decide to remain as advertisers, but if you decide to go elsewhere, i wish you all well.

This decision was a very hard one to make, but necessary as the site just isn't generating enough revenue to continue as it was.

So many sites are just shutting down, for lack of revenue.

I've been giving you 100% after my hosting fees and internet access is paid leaving nothing for my work at all, just to keep the site open. I can no longer do that.
By sharing 75% with US, CA members only which are the one's earning, the point conversion should improve immensely even if the revenue doesn't.

I'm hoping the US and CA members will be more supportive now and increase their point conversions to over 1c as they should have been all along.

I know most of you will understand this decision and I appreciate that and hope you will continue to support the site with advertising from ptp earnings or cash.
To the rest, as i said, i wish you all well and hope you understand this decision.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.


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post May 5 2007, 05:14 PM
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Have you posted about this at GPTB? GPF doesn't boycott programs...
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post May 5 2007, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(cybertongue @ May 6 2007, 12:14 AM) [snapback]4689090[/snapback]
Have you posted about this at GPTB? GPF doesn't boycott programs...

I am not a member but looks like I am going to have to join. No get paid forum doesnt boycott programmes but I am not going to sit quietly about this so am spreading the word.


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post May 5 2007, 05:21 PM
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Well somehow this isn't surprising. My only worry is the "ripple" effect that might come out of it. There are so many sites denying International Members (although I understand the reasoning). There are so many good, honest International members and they're paying the price dearly. ah.gif

I do understand that many countries aren't heavy buyers or aren't even allowed to purchase products, and this just keeps on going downhill.

I don't understand why she'd want to let go the 2nd tier countries? And I certainly don't understand why she doesn't refund the upgrades into the payment processor the folks used. Going back into the accounts might be ok, but doesn't really seem fair (if a person has used a specific amount, just refund a portion).


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There are 202 members from US, 25 from CA, the rest are from other countries which have not been supporting the ads.


Unless I'm misunderstanding everything, it's sure going to take a very LONG time for ads to be clicked??
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post May 5 2007, 05:21 PM
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glad I never joined... never joined any of her programs after MEC
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post May 5 2007, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(Susy @ May 6 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]4689093[/snapback]
Well somehow this isn't surprising. My only worry is the "ripple" effect that might come out of it. There are so many sites denying International Members (although I understand the reasoning). There are so many good, honest International members and they're paying the price dearly. ah.gif

I do understand that many countries aren't heavy buyers or aren't even allowed to purchase products, and this just keeps on going downhill.

I don't understand why she'd want to let go the 2nd tier countries? And I certainly don't understand why she doesn't refund the upgrades into the payment processor the folks used. Going back into the accounts might be ok, but doesn't really seem fair (if a person has used a specific amount, just refund a portion).
Unless I'm misunderstanding everything, it's sure going to take a very LONG time for ads to be clicked??


The Uk is a tier one country
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post May 5 2007, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(dzschau @ May 5 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]4689094[/snapback]
glad I never joined... never joined any of her programs after MEC

Me either ninja.gif And the way she's going about this is just plain WRONG IMO az.gif
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post May 5 2007, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(strolly @ May 5 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]4689095[/snapback]
The Uk is a tier one country



Sorry, that's correct. Hunger rumbles account for lack of functioning brain cells. ae.gif

Mommy, I do believe you're correct. After the MEC fiasco, et al, I just plain gave up on this owner. ah.gif Just too contentious trying to do the right thing (too many changes, too many unfair decisions).



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post May 5 2007, 05:42 PM
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Anyone interested in submitting a formal complaint about this program should click here.
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post May 5 2007, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(Susy @ May 6 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]4689099[/snapback]
Sorry, that's correct. Hunger rumbles account for lack of functioning brain cells. ae.gif

Mommy, I do believe you're correct. After the MEC fiasco, et al, I just plain gave up on this owner. ah.gif Just too contentious trying to do the right thing (too many changes, too many unfair decisions).
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I wasnt meaning to be picky.

QUOTE(cybertongue @ May 6 2007, 12:42 AM) [snapback]4689102[/snapback]
Anyone interested in submitting a formal complaint about this program should click here.


I cant find anywhere to sign up for boycott site?
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post May 5 2007, 05:56 PM
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No, I didn't think you were being picky. aa.gif I'd totally spaced out UK from USA and CA (too many abbreviations on an empty but soon to be fed tummy LOL).

I believe you can submit the complaint through that link without having to sign up to the forum, however try this if you want to become a member:

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/register.php
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post May 5 2007, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Susy @ May 6 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]4689107[/snapback]
No, I didn't think you were being picky. aa.gif I'd totally spaced out UK from USA and CA (too many abbreviations on an empty but soon to be fed tummy LOL).

I believe you can submit the complaint through that link without having to sign up to the forum, however try this if you want to become a member:

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/register.php


Thank you, I doubt I will use the forum much but joined anyway.
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post May 5 2007, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(Susy @ May 6 2007, 01:21 AM) [snapback]4689093[/snapback]
Well somehow this isn't surprising. My only worry is the "ripple" effect that might come out of it. There are so many sites denying International Members (although I understand the reasoning). There are so many good, honest International members and they're paying the price dearly. ah.gif

I do understand that many countries aren't heavy buyers or aren't even allowed to purchase products, and this just keeps on going downhill.

I don't understand why she'd want to let go the 2nd tier countries? And I certainly don't understand why she doesn't refund the upgrades into the payment processor the folks used. Going back into the accounts might be ok, but doesn't really seem fair (if a person has used a specific amount, just refund a portion).
Unless I'm misunderstanding everything, it's sure going to take a very LONG time for ads to be clicked??


I can understand why it's done. I closed my program for new signups from many countries late last year, I did it with the greatest regret then and I still regret that I had to. But there simply was no way around it anymore. When members from certain area's simply don't buy, advertisers don't want them so they won't have earning options anyway. I believe that in the long term it's the only way for a program to survive without sending only 1/100th cent links.

However, the way this PO is doing this is totally disgusting. Either close for new signups from 'less wanted' countries and allow existing members full access to all features or - if you really thibk you must - delete the accounts of members from these countries after paying them in full including a decent compensation for referrals and such.

This is being done under the pretense of being fair to certain members - and by ripping off other members. You are fair to all members or you are not, and this is not fair.
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post May 5 2007, 08:16 PM
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I used to be a member. Quit b/c I couldn't keep up with all the constant changes and the constant complaints about members being unsupportive.

I was always paid promptly - that was never an issue, but I couldn't live with the rules.
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post May 5 2007, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(dzschau @ May 5 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]4689094[/snapback]
glad I never joined... never joined any of her programs after MEC



I was in both Mec and Reliable at one time but quit long time ago. Really glad I did too. Carole really changes things around beyond belief and then one week later does it again. Etc. etc.




*sigh*
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