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sophieca
post Jul 13 2006, 10:45 AM
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MO,

You joined that site and was paid by them ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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madmeikal
post Jul 13 2006, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(sophieca @ Jul 14 2006, 12:45 AM) [snapback]4503740[/snapback]

MO,

You joined that site and was paid by them ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Sophie

Sophie, he Must have used Mass Pay, so he Didn't See my email, which has my gpf Username Right In It! lol, I thought for Sure he'd Save me from unsubbing come payday, lol.
But ya know, I don't think Mike operates that way anyways. Just because he may 'know' I'm up to no good, lol, he didn't delete me, as I hadn't violated the terms or anything.
but then he caught me, lol. But yeah, I got paid with the rest. I clicked quite a few of the runners, to make sure they were acting the same as the revisits.

lol, maybe I should give it Back to the poor guy ? he could use it to raise that 3.9% the conversion is down to now, lol.

but I guess a Lot here in gpf will think I'm a Real hypo for taking that. danged spades MO, those long handles on them stick out like Sore Clicking Thumbs.

Edited to add: the Next Site, I won't fare so well at tho, they don't pay Anyone without the member Searching, gpf has quite a few posts of peeps getting deleted from that one, instead of being paid, so I'm outta luck for Sure there, lol. provided of course it's still There payday...

MO.

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post Jul 13 2006, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(madmeikal @ Jul 13 2006, 11:55 AM) [snapback]4503745[/snapback]

Sophie, he Must have used Mass Pay, so he Didn't See my email, which has my gpf Username Right In It! lol, I thought for Sure he'd Save me from unsubbing come payday, lol.
But ya know, I don't think Mike operates that way anyways. Just because he may 'know' I'm up to no good, lol, he didn't delete me, as I hadn't violated the terms or anything.
but then he caught me, lol. But yeah, I got paid with the rest. I clicked quite a few of the runners, to make sure they were acting the same as the revisits.

lol, maybe I should give it Back to the poor guy ? he could use it to raise that 3.9% the conversion is down to now, lol.

but I guess a Lot here in gpf will think I'm a Real hypo for taking that. danged spades MO, those long handles on them stick out like Sore Clicking Thumbs.

MO.


MO, I think you should take your $12 and use it reinvest in the keywords that had his members click on to steal your money.

Oh and I just read a copy of your email (posted publicly) and my you are quite a writer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) You still have the list so please feel free to continue on with your reporting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Jul 13 2006, 11:12 AM
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Maybe MO could report this thief to the owner of domain-hut for click fraud against google adwords advertisers?

Or maybe Grant wouldn't care?

That is wonderful news about Duff losing TrafficZ! I am sure he managed to steal quite a lot of money from the Yahoo! advertisers before he lost his account, but at least they have put their foot down now.

So this guy knows what he is doing is wrong. He knows he is breaking the TOS of these companies. He owns the search engines he is sending out and I'm pretty sure that paying people to click on search results is against the TOS of his feeds, at least if you go high enough in the chain.

Yet this "person" has deleted someone who reported his theft, out of concern for the real advertisers who are being ripped off at the contextual ad company googleadons.com

This company alleges "Publishers that commit fraudulent activities, including false clicks, false impressions, and incentivised clicks, will have their account permanently removed from our network and will not be compensated for fraudulent traffic.".

If any unsuspecting advertiser comes along and checks that out, they will believe it! They wont know that it's the owner of googleadons himself who is defrauding them!

Yet he is. Because he has made a nice page which defies the TOS of his own site, http://www.searchwild-group.info/portals/2050.html which has no content, only four leaderboard style banners with the contextual ads in. Then he sends this URL to the members of his sites, agroupeffort and team1players and tells them to click on something on the page. They know they have to click because they know they are sharing in the revenue From the clicks. They also get instructions on the signin page on [b]how to do a valid search
[/b] and reminders in the emails that [b]if you don't want to search you don't have to, but remember that is where our money comes from and you're cheating the rest of the members if you don't search[/b] (paraphrased).

This guy is Carole on amphetamines

Look at this:

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I lost TrafficZ last night with over $1800.00 in earnings on the account. Half of that was yours!


Waaaaah. You encourage people to steal for you, you commit click fraud on a gross scale and moan when you get canned. Add wimp to the names we can call this guy.

If the TrafficZ canning was due to a report from one of Mr Duff's members, I say Way To Go and Congrats on Your Achievement!!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/yay.gif)

BTW who is complaining about MO being paid for clicking on links at a site when that is what he was told to do in order to get paid? $12 compared to the thousands of dollars that Duff is stealing every month?

If this post is off topic, I would be more than happy to use it to start a new thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



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post Jul 13 2006, 11:32 AM
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This is a note in reply to all the negative remarks about AGroupEffort. I only joined last month but I did 36 searches and was paid $1.62 in Paypal on July 4th (it is promised by the 7th). I don't understand what all the fuss is about. If you don't want to do searches then don't expect to be paid. Soon all searches will be banned at all sites because it just causes everyone problems! ....Hvangas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jul 13 2006, 11:38 AM
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LOL on the from page of Team1players "Cheaters will be deleted at once!"

Maybe a bit off topic but these 2 programs are being promoted heavily by the head honchos at BGpaymail these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Now bill wouldn't be into click fraud would he ?
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post Jul 13 2006, 11:40 AM
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I was reading your posts and I felt I have to join this forum to tell you how much I appreciate Mike's work and his sites team1player and Agroupeffort....I always do a lot of searches, not because I am forced to do (when someone talks about psycological violence makes me laught!!!...if I don't want to search simply I don't!!) but because I want to earn more.
I am eager of these sites and I promote them a lot in Italy...and we all make a lot of search and we are happy to receive Mike's payments...always on time and rich.

If you do not like these sites do not join them, but do not waste our work!!

Mike tough it out...in Italy we give support to you!!
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post Jul 13 2006, 11:40 AM
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I was paid $113 combined last month from Team1Players & AGroupEffort. Both excellent programs.

Why doesn't the anti-search brigade go shut down sites that pay 1/4 a search? Or better yet, leave everyone alone and let people do as they choose... to search or not search?
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post Jul 13 2006, 11:44 AM
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Whooooaaaa, slow down people....

can some one point out to a very thick, and slow on the upkeep mrgrumpy exactly how these two sites are click fraud.... I realise the statement about "how to do a valid search" could well be seen as encouraging fake searches. Is there something else here? Since this post became...errrr...popular i have recieved emails from agoup/team1 players WM referring me to this thread and a few hours before an email came saying how the WM himself had allegedly been defrauded. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) .....

Now I've completely lost the plot.......

as a member of agroup and team1 please explain (in simple terms) the fraund committed

For now agroup and team1 are still in my sig but this might change fairly soon...... (annoyingly I upgraded to gold membership on Gainpay yesterday and guess what I put as the banner in my 1000PTC ads and 50000 bannerviews!!! .... humph)
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post Jul 13 2006, 11:45 AM
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Duff Posted that Email of mine Publically !!
Rofl, I'm Soooooo Embarrassed!
Wags, can you Believe that I FELL for that googleadons Site? rofl, That's how he got me, lol.
I was in a strange mood at Best when I got the thing in my inbox, and g is launching something new every day, the contact was right on the site, so I just umm, lol.
oh that's enbarrassing, lol.

wonder who's feeding that one ? I had a quick look, but didn't take the time to work out the feed...

Carole on amphetamines! Rofl, yep, it's a nutso one allright, lol.
dear memberys. I'm a crook, and Here's What I'm doing to Try and Protect the money I'm getting You to steal for Us, roflmfao.

To the gpf mods: Cut us some Slack here K? I don't run around the forum calling these po's doing this sort o thing All Crooks, don't use the 'steal' or 'thief' word very often, but This Guy Takes the CAKE, Cookies, Plate, Table, The Works, so give us a little rant here k? thanks. then I'll be Good again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

and you good memberys all be Careful about that Gag Order he's got on You, but be careful what you Write Yourselves, roflmao at this Unbelieveable piece of work.

"(48 Guests and 7 Anonymous Users)""
Roflmao, Mike, if I'd o known you were gonna Send it to the entire Memberbase, I'd o chucked in a link for an Aff Product or Two. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

MO.
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the lil crusader
post Jul 13 2006, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(madmeikal @ Jul 13 2006, 12:13 PM) [snapback]4503704[/snapback]

yep. got paid once allready too. 12 bucks i think.
thanks for the searches to drive up the conversions btw rofl.

MO.


LOL....you wouldn't be referring to the 9 search links sent out everyday as admin links, supposedly because several members requested it would you?

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It was requested by several members that i send these links out again. They do not add points but add to site revenue which, in turn, raises point conversions. You may save them and click them every 24 hours if you wish. We All Thank You.


I wonder if the "several members" who supposedly asked for the same 9 admin search ads everyday are also the ones who asked for details on how to do a search. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif)

I especially love how those searches are called "unpaid" yet in each email members are reminded that they'll make the point conversions higher if they do them. It's a lovely touch that it's against the terms of both team 1 and a group effort to post the details of how conversion amounts were determined in any given month. (Of course since that would show all the money Michael Duff made off his members and how he did it, I guess that part of the Terms is understandable.)

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post Jul 13 2006, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(wagdoll @ Jul 13 2006, 01:12 PM) [snapback]4503768[/snapback]

Maybe MO could report this thief to the owner of domain-hut for click fraud against google adwords advertisers?

Or maybe Grant wouldn't care?


I'm not MO, lol, but I did report MD to Grant a few days ago - so far, there's no indication that he cares.
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post Jul 13 2006, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(mrgrumpy @ Jul 14 2006, 01:44 AM) [snapback]4503807[/snapback]

Whooooaaaa, slow down people....

can some one point out to a very thick, and slow on the upkeep mrgrumpy exactly how these two sites are click fraud.... I realise the statement about "how to do a valid search" could well be seen as encouraging fake searches. Is there something else here? Since this post became...errrr...popular i have recieved emails from agoup/team1 players WM referring me to this thread and a few hours before an email came saying how the WM himself had allegedly been defrauded. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) .....

Now I've completely lost the plot.......

as a member of agroup and team1 please explain (in simple terms) the fraund committed

For now agroup and team1 are still in my sig but this might change fairly soon...... (annoyingly I upgraded to gold membership on Gainpay yesterday and guess what I put as the banner in my 1000PTC ads and 50000 bannerviews!!! .... humph)

Grumpy, he's Sending You Parked Domain Ads, with Google adsense on them, or with Yahoo Search Marketing Ads on them, lol.
The Very ACT of Sending Them, is Fraud!

The only reason it lasts as long as it Does, is because Goog and Yahoo have to Verify the Fraud, via the Parking Companies where their ads are displayed on. So it takes some time for it all to get Kanned.
He's Lost Parked.com and Trafficz.com so we're getting there, lol.

MO.

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post Jul 13 2006, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(rumild @ Jul 13 2006, 06:40 PM) [snapback]4503803[/snapback]
I was paid $113 combined last month from Team1Players & AGroupEffort. Both excellent programs.

Why doesn't the anti-search brigade go shut down sites that pay 1/4 a search? Or better yet, leave everyone alone and let people do as they choose... to search or not search?




Personally I don't care what the link values are. I care that this guy is cheating other sites and manipulating and paying people to do fake searches.



Paying for searches is against the rules. He's breaking the rules, he's being criticised.



Why did Mr Duff lose his TrafficZ account? For cheating them. He was driving traffic and paying people to do searches on his domains. This is against their rules.


I wonder if he's breaking the rules of the parking companies he is still using or if they allow driven, incentive traffic?



ad median

gold key fed by Yahoo!

active audience fed by Yahoo!

siteparker.com

trafficparking fed by Yahoo!






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post Jul 13 2006, 11:56 AM
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Here's his latest admin mail (which explains the sudden rise in the # of people in this thread):

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THERE WILL BE NO EMAIL SENT FOR A FEW DAYS. WANT TO
KNOW WHY YOU CAN READ OR POST HERE. I'M OUT NUMBERED. I
REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC FORUMS.

(link to this thread was inserted here)
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